"It’s at its worst when people complain about how media is all Ivy League grads. It is true? Sure! But every single person complaining about it graduated from college. You know who didn’t graduate from college? The majority of Americans."
This is the same logic dumb boomers would use lmao. If you actually grew up in communities that have a large percentage of poverty, you'd know it's laughable to say just because you graduated college you're already part of the elite. Plenty of people I went to school with graduated from small state schools and are now working minimum wage, dead-end jobs. But from your perspective they're already part of the elite in America? 💀
Look don't get me wrong, the media class is full of some of the lamest people you'll ever meet. But laughing at individuals for complaining about their poor career outcomes due to massive changes in their industry seems like even bigger (forgive me for typing this corny ass line only the palest white person could write) "loser-dork behavior" than what you're describing.
It makes sense that someone who could afford out of state tuition at Berkeley ends their dumb little rant defending an industry that does not care for meritocracy with a pull yourself up by your bootstraps line
This is some good quality hate, don’t want to see it end. The article reminded my of when Jezebel would touch on the Wedding Industrial Complex and the comment section would erupt into a contest over who could pronounce the most spartan, least oustentatious ceremony that had planned for themselves
My god. Hate Read reminds me so much of the old SPY magazine days, please don’t stop Hate Read. I would happily pay subscription fees. This is the only substack I look forward to. It feels like the only sane place left on the Internet *crying* thankyou 🙏
The amount of willful misunderstanding in these comments is something to behold. No shit, there are other places in America/the world where college graduates toil in awful, low-income jobs while they pay off their student debt. No one is arguing to the contrary! The author's point is that the performative urge for people in rarefied professions to publicly complain about nepotism or privilege benefitting their peers is both tedious and, more damningly, hypocritical.
The overwhelming majority of people who work in "sexy" professions like media or entertainment, got there through some form of privilege. That may have been because they went to a school with a solid J-school program, or generally good post-graduate placement. They probably had access to internships many kids didn't even know existed. They likely grew up in a more affluent/cosmopolitan area where they were exposed to people who worked in said professions, or they had access to resources who could connect them to people who did.
Whatever it is, the point of the matter is that it's become commonplace for those same people to whine about someone else's *greater* privilege when/if that other person is promoted to an even sexier job title. There will always be someone with more access than you, and yes, the rich get richer, but falling all over yourself to deemphasize your status as one of the lucky few to get a seat at the table is crass. Doing it *publicly* and disavowing your privilege is gross. Stop being gross, losers.
And yeah, the whole point of the Chappaqua joke was to illustrate that. How on Earth do you not get that?
spoken like a true born and bred resident of Hilary Clinton's current Westchester hometown who paid out of state tuition for a public school. sorry you are annoyed by people poorer than your Westchester parents
I write a lot about class from a POV of "generational wealth," which I will define as wealth that, properly handled, can last at least three generations.
I've tried to be transparent (without using numbers) about where I come from. It's very hard to escape relative envy, even for those who are in the top 0.1%. There's always someone richer who may appear to possess a more successful life. I'm 62 and I'd say that it's been a multi-decade process to rid myself of that type of thinking.
I'm writing a post about assortative mating, out Saturday, which you may be interested in reading.
"It’s at its worst when people complain about how media is all Ivy League grads. It is true? Sure! But every single person complaining about it graduated from college. You know who didn’t graduate from college? The majority of Americans."
This is the same logic dumb boomers would use lmao. If you actually grew up in communities that have a large percentage of poverty, you'd know it's laughable to say just because you graduated college you're already part of the elite. Plenty of people I went to school with graduated from small state schools and are now working minimum wage, dead-end jobs. But from your perspective they're already part of the elite in America? 💀
Look don't get me wrong, the media class is full of some of the lamest people you'll ever meet. But laughing at individuals for complaining about their poor career outcomes due to massive changes in their industry seems like even bigger (forgive me for typing this corny ass line only the palest white person could write) "loser-dork behavior" than what you're describing.
It makes sense that someone who could afford out of state tuition at Berkeley ends their dumb little rant defending an industry that does not care for meritocracy with a pull yourself up by your bootstraps line
This is some good quality hate, don’t want to see it end. The article reminded my of when Jezebel would touch on the Wedding Industrial Complex and the comment section would erupt into a contest over who could pronounce the most spartan, least oustentatious ceremony that had planned for themselves
The school is called Horace Greeley #actually.
My god. Hate Read reminds me so much of the old SPY magazine days, please don’t stop Hate Read. I would happily pay subscription fees. This is the only substack I look forward to. It feels like the only sane place left on the Internet *crying* thankyou 🙏
Don’t let the hate reads end.
The amount of willful misunderstanding in these comments is something to behold. No shit, there are other places in America/the world where college graduates toil in awful, low-income jobs while they pay off their student debt. No one is arguing to the contrary! The author's point is that the performative urge for people in rarefied professions to publicly complain about nepotism or privilege benefitting their peers is both tedious and, more damningly, hypocritical.
The overwhelming majority of people who work in "sexy" professions like media or entertainment, got there through some form of privilege. That may have been because they went to a school with a solid J-school program, or generally good post-graduate placement. They probably had access to internships many kids didn't even know existed. They likely grew up in a more affluent/cosmopolitan area where they were exposed to people who worked in said professions, or they had access to resources who could connect them to people who did.
Whatever it is, the point of the matter is that it's become commonplace for those same people to whine about someone else's *greater* privilege when/if that other person is promoted to an even sexier job title. There will always be someone with more access than you, and yes, the rich get richer, but falling all over yourself to deemphasize your status as one of the lucky few to get a seat at the table is crass. Doing it *publicly* and disavowing your privilege is gross. Stop being gross, losers.
And yeah, the whole point of the Chappaqua joke was to illustrate that. How on Earth do you not get that?
spoken like a true born and bred resident of Hilary Clinton's current Westchester hometown who paid out of state tuition for a public school. sorry you are annoyed by people poorer than your Westchester parents
lol even the comments are mad … nice work
"When you do a song and dance about how you were so poor growing up that,when your rich aunt died, you owed $20?"
Loser-dorky writing
I liked your article a lot.
I write a lot about class from a POV of "generational wealth," which I will define as wealth that, properly handled, can last at least three generations.
I've tried to be transparent (without using numbers) about where I come from. It's very hard to escape relative envy, even for those who are in the top 0.1%. There's always someone richer who may appear to possess a more successful life. I'm 62 and I'd say that it's been a multi-decade process to rid myself of that type of thinking.
I'm writing a post about assortative mating, out Saturday, which you may be interested in reading.
"Go start a Substack with that shit…" Mwahaha
I’m howling! Keep these coming.
HAHAHAHHAHAHA "Chappaqua Central represent"