discussing optimism, somehow

ICYMI: I had a lot of fun (and probably ran my mouth a little too much) guesting on Kevin Lorenzo and Arjun Ram Srivatsa’s Diversity Hire Podcast last week! When Arjun and Kevin first reached out about having me on, I was pretty nervous because I haven’t done a “longformy” podcast interview before, and especially not partially on Zoom (eye contact for 9…